17 August 2026 · Gift Aid
Why lodges leave Gift Aid unclaimed, and how a successful lodge stops
The miss is operational: declaration, dues split, and the festive-board tin. The published illustration is £1,125, not a slogan.
Are the three breaks still open: the Gift Aid declaration, the charitable split on dues, and the festive-board tin? Can a successor show that those breaks are closed without a spring reconstruction? If the honest answers are a folder from 2019, a percentage invented when the pack is due, a tin that went home, or a belief that the Relief Chest already completed the year, the lodge has not yet stopped leaving Gift Aid unclaimed. It has a hope that someone will rebuild April from memory.
This page is the operational miss. Lodges leave Gift Aid unclaimed because those three records never meet on the same paid gift. It is small-organisation failure, not a Craft failing. Any UK membership charity that takes subscriptions and plate collections can lose the same year. This is ordinary Treasurer and Charity Steward work. It is not a lesson in Masonry. It does not describe ceremony, signs, words, or anything private to the Craft. It does not invent a rule from UGLE or a Province. Minutes are a lodge record of business. They are not a Gift Aid evidence file, and this page will not ask you to put private lodge business into a tax pack.
The sibling desks on this site already cover one job each, and this guide will not rewrite them. How a lodge takes a Gift Aid declaration is the document on the named member. How a Treasurer splits dues is the charitable portion of the sub. How a lodge reclaims GASDS on festive-board cash is the tin counted on the night. How a lodge reclaims Gift Aid on dues, alms, and donations is the umbrella reclaim year. How a lodge uses a Relief Chest and still runs Gift Aid is the destination sitting beside this desk. The Gift Aid product page and the Treasurer desk are the product facts. LodgePay arrives at the end of this page, after the three breaks are owned, not as the opening slogan.
Why lodges leave Gift Aid unclaimed
Lodges do not leave Gift Aid unclaimed because they dislike money, or because officers dislike a reclaim. They leave it because three records never meet: a valid declaration stored on the named donor, a decided charitable portion of the annual subscription, and a cash line for the dinner tin. A declaration in a folder, a split in a side note, and a tin in a cupboard are three good intentions. The claim needs them on the same paid gift.
That is why handover fails. The next Treasurer inherits passwords and a paying-in book that does not explain April. The lodge then files nothing, or files a guess. A successful lodge stops that miss by closing each break when the money moves, then leaving a pack a successor can open without telephoning last year's team.
The rest of this guide is that stop. It uses only public HMRC practice we re-checked on 11 September 2026, and only figures LodgePay has already published on its Gift Aid and pricing pages. It will not invent a higher unclaimed figure to make the problem sound worse. It will not invent a Provincial average. It will not invent a UGLE office rule about who must file.
The three breaks, named so a successor can test them
A successor arriving after installation should be able to open this year's gifts and answer three questions without a reconstruction. Which named donors have a valid Gift Aid declaration, and which of this year's gifts does that document cover? What portion of this year's subscription did the lodge already decide was a gift, and does every paid row still show that split? Where is the cash line for each festive board, counted on the night, and which part of that night is Gift Aid Small Donations Scheme rather than named Gift Aid?
If any one of those answers requires a Secretary inbox, a formula invented in April, a tin that went home, or an assumption that the Relief Chest already did the work, that break is still open. Software cannot close a break the lodge never owned. A Chest cannot close it either. The test is whether a second officer can show the same three answers from the same desk.
- Declaration on the named member, not in a private inbox that the next Treasurer cannot open.
- Split on the dues year, written before the first reminder, not invented when the pack is due.
- Cash on the meeting, counted the same night, not in a tin that went home.
- A named filer, and a bank that will receive the reclaim.
What HMRC publishes, re-checked 11 September 2026
We re-checked the public GOV.UK Gift Aid pages on 11 September 2026 before repeating these facts. HMRC's Gift Aid scheme lets a UK charity reclaim 25 pence for every £1 given by a UK taxpayer who has made a valid declaration. That is public HMRC practice. It is not a lodge custom, and this page will not invent a Provincial by-law about it.
GOV.UK still tells charities that a declaration should state that the donor has paid the same amount or more in Income Tax or Capital Gains Tax in that tax year, and that the donor agrees Gift Aid should be claimed. The declaration must include a description of the gift and state the name of the charity, the donor's full name, and the donor's full home address including a postal code. GOV.UK currently tells charities to keep a record of declarations for six years after the most recent donation you claimed Gift Aid on. Follow HMRC if that published period changes for your charity.
Gift Aid applies to a genuine charitable gift. A membership fee is not automatically a gift. HMRC publishes rules on when a charity subscription can qualify, including that the payment must be for membership only and must not give members personal use of the charity's facilities or services. Osborne-type issues exist in public practice. This page will not invent case law. The lodge must decide a charitable portion, write that decision where a successor can find it, and claim only on that portion where a valid declaration exists. Neighbouring lodges may split differently. Copying them without looking at your own resolution and charity status does not create a record you can defend. The split job has its own note: how a Treasurer splits dues so Gift Aid can be claimed.
The Gift Aid Small Donations Scheme is a different HMRC route. GOV.UK, re-checked on the same day, says you may be able to claim 25 per cent on cash donations of £30 or less, and on contactless card donations of £30 or less collected on or after 6 April 2019, without a Gift Aid declaration. From 6 April 2016 you can claim a top-up of up to £2,000 in a tax year, which is the Gift Aid equivalent on £8,000 of qualifying small donations at 25 pence in the pound. LodgePay's published copy states an annual GASDS allowance of up to £8,000. We are not adding a higher figure, and we are not inventing a lodge-specific cap.
GOV.UK also publishes conditions that sit beside that allowance. Your charity or CASC must have claimed Gift Aid in the same tax year as you want to claim GASDS, and without getting a penalty in the last two tax years. Your GASDS claim cannot be more than ten times your Gift Aid claim in the same tax year. Membership fees are not eligible for GASDS. The scheme still needs a cash record: the total collected, the date of the collection, and the date it was paid into a bank account. Check HMRC for the conditions that apply to your charity in the year you file. The night-count job has its own note: how a lodge reclaims GASDS on festive-board cash.
Those are the public facts this miss-guide is allowed to use. Everything else on this page is officer practice: who owns the file, when the three records meet, how a successor opens the pack, and why lodges leave the year unclaimed when those records stay apart. It is not a ruling from UGLE or a Province.
Break one: the declaration never meets this year's gifts
Without a valid declaration, Gift Aid on a named gift does not run. The document is HMRC's, not a lodge custom and not a Chest form we will invent. The wording job, the storage job, and the way that paper meets this year's gifts are already written on how a lodge takes a Gift Aid declaration. This miss-guide only needs why that break stays open.
The usual failure is not wording. It is timing and storage. The paper lives in a folder from 2019. The scan lives in a Secretary inbox. Nobody matches it to this year's dues run or to a named donation on installation night. Officers then either skip the claim or guess. A valid declaration that nobody can find is the same as no declaration for the purpose of filing.
A lodge that leaves this break open produces the same spring every year. The Treasurer cannot show the document. The Treasurer cannot show that it applies to this year's gifts. The lodge files nothing, or files a guess. The next Treasurer then inherits an oral account of who would have been happy to complete a form.
A successful lodge closes the break in ordinary time. It takes the declaration once, stores it against the named member, and applies it to later eligible gifts. When a brother has not declared, the lodge asks, or leaves that gift out. It does not invent a tick because the pack is due on Friday. If a declaration is cancelled, or a donor's tax position changes, the lodge stops applying it. GOV.UK expects donors to tell the charity if they want to cancel, if their name or address changes, or if they no longer pay enough tax.
Break two: the dues split was never a decision
Annual subscriptions are the regular figure on most lodge books. They are also the easiest to claim wrongly. A membership fee is not automatically a gift. Gift Aid applies to the charitable portion only, and only if the lodge has already decided that a split exists. How the lodge writes that split, and how it sits on every paid row, is already written on how a Treasurer splits dues. This miss-guide only needs why that break stays open.
The miss is often not arithmetic. It is the absence of a decision. Nobody wrote what part of this year's sub is a donation. In April someone picks a percentage that sounds respectable. That is not a record a successor can defend. A declaration does not create the split. It only answers whether this named donor is a UK taxpayer who has agreed Gift Aid on gifts to this charity. Both answers have to be yes before a dues line belongs in the pack.
HMRC and Osborne-type issues exist in public practice. This page will not invent the lawful percentage for your lodge, and it will not invent case law. The lodge, or the charity that will file, decides the charitable portion after looking at its own resolution, charity status, and HMRC position. Neighbouring lodges may split differently. Copying them without papers is not diligence. If the lodge has not decided that any part of the sub is a gift, there is no dues Gift Aid line to compute. Record the payment. Leave that money out of the pack.
A successful lodge closes the break at year start. It writes the membership fee, the charitable donation, the total a brother is asked to pay, and the charity that will file. It applies that same split on every paid row. Waivers, leavers, and late payers stay visible so the claim is not padded. If the lodge later changes the split, it dates the change. It does not silently edit last year's paid rows.
Break three: the tin never became a line
Dinner collections are where reclaim usually dies. Cash goes in a tin, then a paying-in book, then a guess. Named card gifts would have been Gift Aid if a declaration existed. Unnamed small cash would have been the Gift Aid Small Donations Scheme if anyone had written the night down. How the tin is counted, written, and banked is already written on how a lodge reclaims GASDS on festive-board cash. This miss-guide only needs why that break stays open.
A paying-in book that says a sum went to the bank is not a meeting record. A later transfer to a Relief Chest is not a count. A dinner total that mixes dining, raffle, named envelopes, and loose cash is not a scheme. GASDS does not repair a missing declaration on a named donor. It does not repair a dues row with no charitable split. It does not mean that a Chest form completed the lodge year.
GOV.UK, re-checked on 11 September 2026, still expects a record of the total collected, the date of the collection, and the date it was paid into a bank account. Two officers should count on the night, agree a figure, and write that figure against the meeting before the room is packed away. They should not take the tin home to sort later. Card and online gifts stay on the Gift Aid side when a declaration exists. Do not pour named card takings into GASDS to save matching.
A successful lodge closes the break the same evening. Dining, raffle, and alms sit on that meeting. Named gifts keep a name. Unnamed small cash is counted, written, and banked as counted. If a meeting has no cash line and someone later remembers a collection, the lodge writes the process failure down. It does not invent a figure from the paying-in book.
Why the three records have to meet on one desk
Each break can look closed on its own. The lodge has a folder of papers. The lodge once discussed a percentage. Someone remembers that the tin was full. The claim still fails, because Gift Aid is not three separate hobbies. It is one paid gift that has to carry the right document, the right split, and, for unnamed cash, the right night line.
The desk is ordinary. Member ledger: who paid, what was charitable, declaration yes or no. Meeting ledger: dining, named gifts, cash counted. Filing pack: what you will send to HMRC, stored with the declarations. If those three disagree, you will rebuild the year. A successor who has to telephone last year's Treasurer to learn which folder, which formula, and which night, is already reconstructing.
Ownership should be named. Treasurer, Charity Steward, or both. A job that is everyone's is nobody's. We are not inventing a UGLE office rule. We are describing a small organisation that wants a successor. Write the owner's name where the split is written. If two officers share the desk, write which of them files.
Access should be limited to the officers who need it. The Treasurer and Charity Steward need the file. The whole committee does not need a folder of home addresses forwarded on a thread. That is ordinary data care for a charity holding addresses and payments, not a Craft rule.
Handover is where the year is lost
Most lodges do not lose Gift Aid in one dramatic evening. They lose it at handover. The sitting Treasurer knows which scan is the real declaration, which tab holds this year's split, and which paying-in total was last installation's tin. The successor inherits a laptop password, a shared drive named after last year's Master, and a polite conversation about how the year usually works.
A year the lodge can stand behind looks dull. The successor can open a named member and see the declaration, the date it was taken, and whether it still applies. The successor can open two members who paid the same amount, show a declaration on one and none on the other, and see Gift Aid only on the first member's charitable portion. The successor can open last festive board and read the cash that was counted before anyone left. The successor can open the pack and see who files, and which bank receives the reclaim.
If those tests fail, the three breaks are still open. Buying a new tool in September will not close last year's tin. Asking the previous Treasurer to remember April is the reconstruction this page is written to stop.
Spring reconstruction is not a year
A successful lodge treats reclaim as a calendar, not a hunt in the weeks before filing. The published £1,125 illustration on LodgePay's pages is a dues run plus eight boards. That only exists if each of those events was written down when it happened. A tin that never became a line cannot be reclaimed. A sub with no split cannot be claimed in full. A named gift with no declaration is not Gift Aid.
Reconstruction in March or April is how undeclared rows slip in, how waivers get treated as gifts, how card takings get poured into GASDS, and how a successor inherits a pack he cannot explain. A lodge that files a smaller year on documents it can show is in a better position than a lodge that pads a pack with names and nights it cannot support.
If you are already in that spring, stop inventing. Open what you can actually show: declarations you can find, paid rows with a written split, nights with a written cash line. Leave the rest out. Then close the three breaks for the year you are now in, so the next spring is not the same reconstruction.
How a successful lodge stops, as a calendar
The stop is a year of ordinary tasks. It is not a slogan, and it is not a software purchase. The Treasurer, often with the Charity Steward, runs the same desk every dues run and every meeting.
- At installation or year start, name who owns Gift Aid (Treasurer, Charity Steward, or both), confirm the charity that will file, write down this year's charitable split on the subscription, and see who still has no declaration on file.
- When a brother joins, or when a named gift is first given, take the declaration the same day and store it against that person. The taking job is how a lodge takes a Gift Aid declaration.
- On every dues run, collect, match to bank or processor, mark waivers, apply Gift Aid only where a valid declaration exists and the lodge has a decided charitable portion, and leave undeclared or unpaid rows out of the pack. The split job is how a Treasurer splits dues.
- On every meeting, keep dining, raffle, and alms on that meeting. Keep a name on named gifts and match them to the declaration. Count unnamed cash the same night, with a second officer, and bank the figure you wrote. The night-count job is GASDS on the festive board.
- Monthly, clear unmatched bank lines. Do not wait until the claim. If a meeting has no cash line and you remember a collection, write the process failure down and fix the night. Do not invent a figure from the paying-in book.
- When you file, export the pack, have a second officer open the declarations, the split, and the tin lines that support it, then store the submission with those documents for the HMRC retention period.
- On handover, make sure the successor can find the declarations, the split, the tin lines, and the pack without last year's inbox or a personal laptop.
What must stay out of the pack
The pack is narrower than officers sometimes hope. It holds paid charitable portions and named gifts where a valid declaration exists, plus unnamed small cash that was counted if the charity meets HMRC's published GASDS conditions. It does not hold membership fees. It does not hold unpaid rows. It does not hold waived rows. It does not hold undeclared named gifts. It does not hold festive-board cash that was never written against a meeting.
Dining is usually a meal cost. A raffle may be a lodge social account. Only the money the lodge treats as a charitable collection belongs in a Gift Aid or GASDS conversation. Decide that on the night, in writing, not in a later argument. This page will not invent a rule that every pound taken in the dining room is a gift.
A waiver is a decision, not a deleted row. If the lodge remits a brother's subscription, the charitable portion was not given. Putting it in the pack because the split is a formula is how totals inflate. A leaver who paid part of the year did not give a full-year gift. A late payer belongs in the year the money arrived, not the year you wished he had paid. Instalments still need the same declaration on each charitable slice, or a lasting declaration that already covers those gifts. Choose the method the document actually supports, and do not change the method in March because the pack is due.
A second officer should be able to read the pack and arrive at the same total. Size is not the argument. A thirty-member lodge still produces a year. Write the year as if HMRC asked to see the file, and as if the next Treasurer will open it with no handover meeting.
Sitting beside the MCF Relief Chest, not against it
A successful lodge that already uses a Masonic Charitable Foundation Relief Chest does not have to abandon it to stop leaving Gift Aid unclaimed. The Chest is a real, respected destination and a stewardship path for charitable money. Declarations, the charitable split on subs, and the festive-board cash log are still the lodge's operational work. Those two jobs, and why they are not rivals, are already written on how a lodge uses a Relief Chest and still runs Gift Aid.
This page will not invent Chest fees, Chest features, or a claim that one product replaces the other. MCF's public pages and PDFs already cover Gift Aid on donations into a Chest. Officers already know those papers. A Chest form is a declaration for gifts that go into a Chest. It is not automatically the lodge year's declaration desk for dues and named gifts that never entered the Chest, and it does not count the dinner tin.
A lodge can use a Chest and still leave Gift Aid unclaimed if nobody captured declarations or counted the tin. A lodge can run a careful Gift Aid year and still send grants through a Chest. Treating them as rivals is how officers spend a year arguing about tools instead of writing down who declared, what portion of the sub was a gift, and what the tin held on the night.
If two officers disagree about where charitable money should later sit, they should write the destination down. They should not pause the taking of declarations, the split decision, or the night count until the argument ends. The claim pack and a later transfer to a Chest can move on different calendars. We will not invent a UGLE or Provincial rule that says a lodge must, or must not, use a Chest.
Who files, and where the reclaim lands
The lodge or the charity that is registered with HMRC files the claim. Some lodges use a Provincial arrangement. Some then pay charitable money into a Relief Chest. Those are destination and stewardship choices. They are not a reason to skip the operational record of the three breaks.
If the lodge has no charity registration and files through a Provincial body, say so in the same place you write the split. The split is still a lodge record. The destination of the reclaim is a filing choice. Those are not the same sentence. This page will not invent a Provincial rule that says who must file.
The reclaim lands in that charity's bank: lodge or province, as you already arrange. Sending money onward to a Chest after that is a destination step. Skipping the pack because a Chest exists is how most of the published miss happens. This page will not invent a Chest receiving the HMRC payment on the lodge's behalf unless your own arrangement already says so.
When you file, a second officer should read the totals against the declarations, the dues split, and the tin lines. Store the submission with those documents for the retention period you must keep. GOV.UK, re-checked on 11 September 2026, says keep a record of declarations for six years after the most recent donation you claimed Gift Aid on. LodgePay's published product copy states seven years for Gift Aid records. Use the stricter of what HMRC and your own charity require. A pack that only the sitting Treasurer can explain is the same class of problem as a 2019 folder.
Committee paper: illustration versus your books
If you need a published illustration, use only what is already on LodgePay's Gift Aid and pricing pages. We re-checked those live pages on 11 September 2026. Most lodges leave £1,000 or more unclaimed each year. A typical 30-member lodge reclaims £1,125 a year: £225 from dues and £900 from eight festive boards, plus GASDS on cash up to £8,000 a year. Stop there.
Those amounts assume the lodge recorded the payments, held valid declarations on the named gifts, applied a decided dues split, and counted the tin. A 2019 folder that never met this year's dues run cannot produce the £225. A Chest form that covered money into a Chest cannot invent the £900 if those boards were never matched to a donor record. A tin that was never written against a meeting cannot support the GASDS line.
Then run your own arithmetic. Membership count times your charitable portion, only where declarations exist. Meeting cash actually counted, not hoped. If your lodge is not thirty members, or did not hold eight boards, the illustration is not your claim. Do not invent a Province average. Do not invent a higher GASDS figure. Do not turn the typical lodge into a target the Master must hit. The job is to stop the three breaks, then file what you can defend.
The published illustration does not pay the subscription
The same live pages publish LodgePay Essentials from £149 a month billed annually, which is £1,788 a year, or £169 monthly. Complete is from £229 a month billed annually. Group is from £349. Province is from £2,000 a month plus £35 per lodge, typically £4,500 a month. The Gift Aid illustration of £1,125 is smaller than the annual Essentials figure. The reclaim does not pay the subscription.
Say that line in committee if someone starts subtracting £1,125 from £1,788 and calling the difference a reason to skip the process, or a reason to buy a platform before the three breaks are owned. The illustration is not your books. The subscription is not funded by a pack you have not yet assembled. Mooov processing fees, when you get to card payments, pass through at cost. There is no setup fee on the published pricing page.
What other tools actually publish, re-checked 11 September 2026
Named tools are real. Buy the one that publishes the job you actually have. We re-checked public pages on 11 September 2026. We will not award Gift Aid reclaim unless those live pages say it, and we will not trash a cheaper correct cash book.
The Working Tools (theworkingtools.co.uk) is a real secretary operating system. The public pricing page, re-checked on 11 September 2026, listed £5.00 a month. The features page still offered a 30-day trial. Delegates do not pay extra on the pricing copy we read. The public homepage describes secretary work: member records, summons, minutes, and table plans. The features page describes a Treasurer's cash book with dues tracking, charity funds, and printable year-end reports. Those pages did not describe Gift Aid declarations, a charitable split on subscriptions for a HMRC claim, GASDS reclaim, or an HMRC-ready export. A cash book can record that someone paid. That is not the same as a declaration stored on a named member, applied to this year's eligible gifts, with a pack a successor can open. We will not award them a Gift Aid reclaim their live pages do not state. The honest compare is already on this site: LodgePay and The Working Tools.
LodgeAccounting (lodgetreasurer.co.uk) is a treasurer-books product. Its public site did not publish a price when we last checked, and the pages we read did not describe Gift Aid. Use it if the lodge only needs books. Do not assume it closes the three breaks unless their own pages say so.
Lodge Master, Lodgi, Lodgical, and Lodge Manager are meeting and admin tools some lodges already run. This article will not award them Gift Aid features we have not seen on their public pages. An MCF Relief Chest is a destination for charitable money, not a substitute for the three records.
A folder can hold paper. It cannot apply a 2019 sheet to this year's paid rows unless someone does that matching by hand every time a gift arrives. A spreadsheet of ticks can record that someone once said yes. It is not the HMRC document. When the tick and the scan disagree, the Treasurer has to rebuild the year from two files that were never required to stay together. A paying-in book can show that money reached the bank. It cannot tell a successor which night the tin was counted, or which named gifts sat beside it.
Where LodgePay fits, after the lodge owns the three records
Once the lodge owns declaration, split, and tin, software is a way to stop the job living in one brother's laptop. LodgePay is the tool at the end of that decision, not the opening line. The Gift Aid product desk and the Treasurer desk already state the product facts this page is allowed to use.
LodgePay records a Gift Aid declaration against the member and applies it to later eligible gifts. It can split an annual subscription into a membership portion and a charitable portion so Gift Aid is computed only on the eligible part, and only where a declaration exists. It records festive-board named gifts and cash on the meeting, including GASDS on unnamed cash up to the published £8,000 allowance, subject to HMRC's conditions. It produces an HMRC-ready export and keeps lodge files. Card payments go through Mooov. The lodge files. The reclaim goes to the lodge or province bank account. LodgePay does not take the money.
LodgePay's own product copy states Gift Aid records are retained for seven years. GOV.UK's published declaration retention, re-checked on 11 September 2026, is six years after the most recent donation you claimed on. Follow HMRC if their published period differs for your charity.
Published prices, as on the pricing page, are Essentials from £149 a month billed annually (or £169 monthly), which is £1,788 a year, Complete from £229, Group from £349, and Province from £2,000 a month plus £35 per lodge, typically £4,500 a month. Those figures do not create a declaration you never took, a split the lodge never decided, or a tin that was never counted. The typical 30-member illustration is £1,125 a year. The reclaim does not pay the subscription.
A Relief Chest, if you use one, remains a destination. LodgePay sits beside that choice. It does not replace MCF, and this page will not pretend it does. If you only need a cheap secretary cash book, The Working Tools at £5.00 a month may be enough, and you should buy it with a clear conscience. You will still add Gift Aid yourself, because their live pages do not describe that reclaim.
If the three breaks above are not owned, buying a platform will not change the published miss. If a successor cannot show that the declaration, the dues split, and the tin are closed without a spring reconstruction, the pack is still a hope. That is the end of the pitch, not the start of the diagnosis.
Where the three breaks live under each approach
| Approach | Declaration | Dues split | Festive-board cash |
|---|---|---|---|
| Paper and a year-end guess | A 2019 folder, if you can find it. A successor cannot apply it to this year's paid rows without a hunt. | Invented in April. Not a decision a successor can defend. | A tin, then a paying-in total. The night is already lost. |
| Spreadsheet plus bank CSV | A second folder of scans, and a yes-or-no column if someone typed it. | A side column that drifts from the bank. The pack is rebuilt when the files disagree. | A typed total, if someone remembered the night. |
| The Working Tools cash book (£5.00/mo, public pricing re-checked 11 Sep 2026) | Not described as Gift Aid on the homepage or features pages we opened. A cash book can show that money moved. | That a brother paid, not that a portion was a gift for a HMRC pack. | A cash book line and charity funds, as their features page publishes. GASDS reclaim was not described on those pages. |
| MCF Relief Chest | Still the lodge's document for dues and named gifts that never entered the Chest. MCF's own papers cover gifts that go into a Chest. | Still the lodge's decision. A Chest does not set this year's charitable portion. | Still counted in the dining room, before any transfer. A later Chest payment is not a night line. |
| LodgePay | On the member, applied to eligible gifts, exportable in an HMRC-ready pack. | On the dues year, on every paid row, only where a declaration exists. | On the meeting, for GASDS, with an HMRC-ready export. Essentials billed annually is £1,788. The £1,125 illustration does not pay that subscription. |
Questions people actually ask
- Why do lodges leave Gift Aid unclaimed?
- Because the declaration, the charitable split, and the tin never meet in one record. Not because officers dislike a reclaim. The published illustration is £1,000 or more left, and £1,125 typical for a 30-member lodge, plus GASDS up to £8,000. A successor who cannot show those three records without a spring reconstruction has not yet closed the breaks.
- Can we claim Gift Aid on the whole annual subscription?
- Only on the portion that is genuinely a charitable donation, with a valid declaration. A membership fee is not automatically a gift. HMRC publishes rules on charity subscriptions, and Osborne-type issues exist in public practice. This page will not invent case law or the lawful percentage. The lodge decides the charitable portion. The typical-lodge dues slice already published is £225 of that £1,125 year. The split desk is how a Treasurer splits dues.
- What makes a Gift Aid declaration valid?
- It is a HMRC document, not a lodge custom. GOV.UK, re-checked on 11 September 2026, requires the charity name, the donor's full name and home address including a postal code, a description of the gifts, and agreement that Gift Aid may be claimed, plus the taxpayer confirmation HMRC publishes. Without that document stored on the named donor, a named gift should not go into the pack. The taking and storage job is how a lodge takes a Gift Aid declaration.
- Does cash in the alms bag qualify?
- Named gifts with a declaration go through Gift Aid. Small unnamed cash may qualify under GASDS if your charity meets HMRC's published conditions. LodgePay's site states an annual GASDS allowance of up to £8,000. Check HMRC for the rules that apply to you. A tin that never became a line cannot be reclaimed. The night-count desk is GASDS on the festive board.
- If we already use a Relief Chest, have we solved this?
- No. A Chest is a destination for charitable funds. Declarations, the dues split, and the night's cash log are still the lodge's operational work. The two are not rivals. Use both if that is your stewardship. The pairing is Relief Chest and lodge Gift Aid.
- Does LodgePay replace the Relief Chest?
- No. This article will not pretend it does, and it will not invent Chest fees. LodgePay prepares an HMRC-ready export. The lodge files. Where you then hold or give the money, including a Chest, is your choice.
- Who files the claim, and who receives the reclaim?
- The registered charity files with HMRC. That may be the lodge or a Provincial body. The reclaim lands in that charity's bank. LodgePay prepares the export. It does not file for you and does not receive the money.
- How long do we keep the declarations?
- Follow HMRC. GOV.UK, re-checked on 11 September 2026, says keep a record of declarations for six years after the most recent donation you claimed Gift Aid on. LodgePay's published copy states seven years for Gift Aid records. Use the stricter of what HMRC and your own charity require, and keep the gifts that those declarations supported with them.
- What if a brother paid but has no declaration?
- Record the payment so the books stay true. Do not invent Gift Aid on his charitable portion. Ask for a declaration, or leave that gift out of the pack.
- Is The Working Tools enough if we only want a cheap cash book?
- It may be, at £5.00 a month (public pricing, re-checked 11 September 2026), if the lodge only needs a secretary operating system and a cash book. Their public homepage, pricing, and features pages did not describe Gift Aid reclaim. A cash book can record that someone paid. It does not, on those pages, store a HMRC declaration on the member or produce a claim pack a successor can open. The compare is LodgePay and The Working Tools.
- Does the published Gift Aid illustration pay for LodgePay?
- No. The typical 30-member illustration already on the Gift Aid and pricing pages is £1,125 a year (£225 from dues and £900 from eight festive boards), plus GASDS on cash up to £8,000. Essentials billed annually is £1,788. The reclaim does not pay the subscription. The figure is an illustration, not your books.
- May we use a bigger number in a committee paper?
- No. Use your own books, or the published illustration only: most lodges leave £1,000 or more; typical 30-member lodge £1,125 a year (£225 dues plus £900 from eight festive boards); GASDS up to £8,000. Do not invent a higher figure, and do not invent a Chest comparison number.
- Can dining or a raffle go into the Gift Aid pack?
- Only if the lodge treats that money as a charitable gift, and only under the scheme that actually fits. Dining is usually a meal cost. A raffle may be a social account. Named charitable gifts need a declaration. Unnamed small cash may be GASDS. Decide on the night, in writing.
- What does LodgePay cost for this job?
- As on the pricing page: Essentials from £149 a month billed annually, or £169 monthly, which is £1,788 a year on the annual rate. Complete from £229. Group from £349. Province from £2,000 a month plus £35 per lodge, typically £4,500. Mooov processing fees pass through at cost. There is no setup fee. The reclaim does not pay that subscription.
Questions that puncture a demo
- Are the three breaks still open on our books: declaration, dues split, and tin? Show each one closed without a spring reconstruction.
- Show a member with a declaration and one without on the same dues run. What is claimed, and where is this year's charitable split written?
- Open the declaration. Is it the HMRC document with name, address, charity, and gifts covered, or only a tick in a spreadsheet?
- We already use a Relief Chest. Show the lodge declaration, the dues split, and the tin count without asking us to abandon the Chest.
- Open last festive board. Where is the cash line, who counted it, and which part is GASDS rather than named Gift Aid?
- Export the HMRC pack. Who files it, which bank receives the reclaim, and can a successor find the declarations, the split, and the tin lines that support it?
- Walk the published £1,125 illustration on our membership count, then show Essentials at £1,788 billed annually, without claiming the reclaim pays the subscription.
- If the Treasurer stands down in June, what does the successor actually inherit, and can he show the three breaks are closed?
If you want that diagnosis run on a sandbox with your lodge branding, book a 30-minute walkthrough. Email hello@lodgepayments.co.uk. Bring your membership count, last year's alms total, this year's dues split if you have one, and, if you use a Relief Chest, how money already reaches it. Ask the questions above out loud. Use only the published numbers, or your own books.
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